A podcast by 37signals about the better way to work and run your business. Featuring Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, cofounders of 37signals (makers of Basecamp and HEY) and authors of books REWORK and It Doesn't Have to Be Crazy at Work. Hosted by 37signals' employee Kimberly Rhodes.
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How much data do you really need to make good decisions? In this episode of The REWORK Podcast, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson talk about 37signals’ evolving relationship with analytics—from working with a full-time analyst to now focusing only on the numbers that truly matter. They share why gut feeling, curiosity, and margin often outweigh dashboards and reports—and how trimming the data obsession can lead to better, bolder decisions. *Key Takeaways* 00:09 – The shift from having a full-time data analyst to working without one 02:25 – Just because you can’t measure it doesn’t mean it’s not important 07:59 – Analytics don’t always drive product decisions 10:15 – How financial margin fuels freedom to experiment 13:42 – Don’t let data make you overly cautious 15:26 – David’s take on cutting unnecessary costs 19:48 – Weighing cost vs. value when making decisions *Links and Resources* Record or upload a video question for Jason and David — https://www.37signals.com/podcastquestion Get a free Basecamp account at https://www.basecamp.com Books by 37signals – https://37signals.com/books 30-day free trial of HEY – https://www.hey.com/ Once. com – https://once.com/ Campfire – https://once.com/campfire HEY – https://www.hey.com/ The REWORK podcast – https://37signals.com/podcast/ Get some REWORK podcast merch – https://37signals.com/podcast/shop *Let's be social!* Twitter/X: https://x.com/37signals Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/37signalshq/ Newsletter: https://www.basecamp.com/newsletter Rework is a production of 37signals. You can find show notes and transcripts on our website. Leave us a video question at www.37signals.com/podcastquestion or send an email to rework@37signals.com, and we might answer it on a future episode.