A podcast by 37signals about the better way to work and run your business. Featuring Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, cofounders of 37signals (makers of Basecamp and HEY) and authors of books REWORK and It Doesn't Have to Be Crazy at Work. Hosted by 37signals' employee Kimberly Rhodes.
Curated by: 37signals (132 videos)
In this episode, 37signals co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson talk about why résumés, job titles, and career timelines take a back seat to what really matters when hiring — your actual work. They share how real-world examples cut through the noise, and open doors for people who may not have a traditional path. *Key Takeaways* 00:00 – Episode highlights 00:10 – Why final hiring decisions come down to a candidate’s actual work 03:50 – The 37Better redesign project 07:27 – How real project work reduces the guesswork of hiring 14:29 – Why creating work outside your portfolio shows your range and creativity 20:02 – Hiring when it hurts *Links and Resources* “Years of Evidence” from Jason Fried’s HEY World – https://world.hey.com/jason/years-of-evidence-9f0504db The 37Better Project (archived) – https://web.archive.org/web/20050209100729/http://www.37signals.com/better.php Record or upload a video question for Jason and David — https://www.37signals.com/podcastquestion Get a free Basecamp account at https://www.basecamp.com Books by 37signals – https://37signals.com/books 30-day free trial of HEY – https://www.hey.com/ Once. com – https://once.com/ Campfire – https://once.com/campfire HEY – https://www.hey.com/ The REWORK podcast – https://37signals.com/podcast/ Get some REWORK podcast merch – https://37signals.com/podcast/shop *Let's be social!* Twitter/X: https://x.com/37signals Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/37signalshq/ Rework is a production of 37signals. You can find show notes and transcripts on our website https://www.37signals.com/ Leave us a video question at www.37signals.com/podcastquestion or send an email to rework@37signals.com, and we might answer it on a future episode.