Across All Worlds with Dr. C. Baxter Kruger & Jason Clark

Currently Playing: Exploring the Cross: Who Killed Jesus? - Ep 26

In this thought-provoking episode, Dr. C. Baxter Kruger and Jason Clark delve into a challenging discussion about the true meaning of the cross and the shortcomings of penal substitutionary atonement. They question traditional views by exploring the relational dynamics within the Trinity, the concept of divine submission, and the profound implications of Jesus’ death. Together, they examine who truly "killed" Jesus, suggesting that the violence of the cross reflects humanity's delusion and fractured understanding of God, rather than divine wrath. This eye-opening conversation invites listeners to reconsider the gospel as a message of divine love, union, and reconciliation. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction and Context of the Conversation 02:44 Revisiting the Concept of Atonement 12:12 The Nature of Violence in the Crucifixion 24:11 Understanding Who Killed Jesus 26:30 Conclusion and Invitation to Further Exploration TAKEAWAYS - The concept of penal substitutionary atonement is being re-evaluated. - Jesus' death is often misunderstood in the context of divine punishment. - The violence of the crucifixion reflects human enmity rather than divine wrath. - The New Testament emphasizes God's presence in the suffering of Jesus. - Understanding the Trinity is crucial to grasping the nature of the cross. The narrative of Jesus' death is about divine submission, not separation. - Humanity's role in Jesus' death highlights our brokenness and need for reconciliation. - The good news of the gospel is about inclusion and relationship with God. - The conversation invites a rethinking of traditional views on atonement. - There is a call to recognize the beauty of the relationship within the Trinity. SOUNDBITES "Why did Jesus have to die?" "We killed Jesus. We did this?" "There is no separation." "The Father is not looking away." Originally aired on GAN, October 30, 2024. Learn more about Baxter at https://perichoresis.org/ Learn more about Jason at https://afamilystory.org/ Please rate, review, share, and subscribe! Podcast intro and outro music by Wilde Assembly Join A Family Story's Mailing List https://landing.mailerlite.com/webforms/landing/e2f4i4 Join Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacos Follow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/ Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/ Follow Jason on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/ Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis Send a donation!! https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8