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Currently Playing: Old Testament God vs. New Testament God

Wrathful Old Testament God, sugar-and-spice New Testament God: it's one of the most common ways people talk about the Bible, and this week we're taking issue with it. Dan McClellan traces the idea back to Marcion and the Gnostic demiurge, and explains why it's both inaccurate and deeply entangled with antisemitism. Mercy runs all through the Hebrew Bible, eternal torment shows up only in the New Testament, and most of what Jesus said riffs on Jewish tradition, so by all means criticize the God of the Bible: just don't split him into two boxes. _______________________________________________ Get your Data Over Dogma merch at our online store: https://data-over-dogma-shop.fourthwall.com/ _______________________________________________ Support Data Over Dogma and get every episode early and ad-free, plus exclusive bonus content — become a patron: https://www.patreon.com/DataOverDogma _______________________________________________ Listen to the podcast on every app: https://pod.link/1681418502 _______________________________________________ Follow us: Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/dataoverdogmapod TikTok — https://www.tiktok.com/@data.over.dogma.pod Threads — https://www.threads.com/@dataoverdogmapod X — https://x.com/data_over_dogma Facebook — https://www.facebook.com/DataOverDogmaPod _______________________________________________ Get Dan McClellan's New York Times bestselling book, The Bible Says So: https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/bible-says-so-9781250347466/ _______________________________________________ Chapters: 0:00 Taking Issue 1:07 Mean God, Nice God? 2:47 Old Testament Santa 3:40 Marcion's Two Gods 5:33 The Gnostic Demiurge 6:23 Why It's Antisemitic 7:10 Is Supersessionism Baked In? 8:04 The Hebrew Bible's Own Othering 10:25 A False Dichotomy 11:26 The Real Tipping Point 12:03 Jesus's Jewish Sources 13:44 No Totally New Ideas 14:56 Who Counts as God's People 16:44 Wrath in the New Testament 17:32 Mercy in the Hebrew Bible 19:11 An Innocent Mistake? 20:31 Yes, Criticize the Text 21:30 Revelation's "Sickbed" 23:24 The Sermon on the Mount 23:59 Thanks for watching! _______________________________________________ #DataOverDogma #BibleScholarship #OldTestament #NewTestament #Marcion