Big Brother 27 | #BB27

Hello everyone and good morning. Welcome to our live feed update for September 25th. I'm your host Armstrong and I'm here today to update you on everything that happened yesterday. Big Brother 27 live feeds. It was day 79 in the house and we are rapidly approaching the end. Of course, uh we have an eviction tonight. We have some things to talk about and with me to talk about them is Matt. How you doing, Matt? >> I am doing good. We are so close to the end. Our final Thursday night eviction coming tonight. We're going to be down to the final three. Got my Rachel votes in this morning for AFP. There's your reminder to go do that if you haven't done it yet or whoever you're voting for. But I'd like it if you voted for Rachel. Um and and uh we have to talk about our final Vorggan hours up in the HOH room tonight. The HOH room about to close for the season. I can't believe it's over. >> Yeah. Uh I don't know what what's going to happen to them. >> Oh, I I know two people who really want to know what's going to happen to them. But one of them really even more than the other really wants to know what is going to happen to them after this. >> I mean without such a big bed >> they you joked her but like every bed downstairs is a single bed and they have spent the past two weeks plus uh in the same bed. You know the barrier Morgan was checking last night making sure that the barrier was there cuz god forbid it's not at this point. Uh but yeah they're about to go back downstairs into single bed territory. Uh Ashley or whoever's left after tonight is gonna be walking around. It's just it's it's scary. Who knows what's gonna happen next. >> Yes. So, let's talk about the day. This uh not as eventful as yesterday in terms of events from uh from the day, but uh still some things to talk about. Of course, Morgan is the HOH and veto holder. The final four eviction will be live tonight. Uh it will be the veto ceremony plus live eviction. Of course uh that means that as of right now Morgan plans to not use the veto. Vince will be the sole vote to evict and the plan is to evict Ava. There was a little bit of movement in the opposite direction uh where the night before Morgan was talking to Vince in a way that was implying that she was considering potentially cutting him at four. Uh, and even more so, she was considering bringing Ashley to the final two instead of him because she fears she might lose to him. Uh, and it sort of sparked a bit of a uh, an argument between the two of them and lots of deeper discussions. Uh, they woke up in the morning refreshed once again. Um, and uh, I would say some of that work had been undone. not undone, but like uh as per sort of usual, they were much happier with each other in the daytime than in the night time. >> Yeah. I mean, the whole that whole thing to me read like Morgan kind of playing with her food, you know, just wanting to, you know, push push the stuff around the plate and see what happens, see how people react to this over here, that over there. Um I mean, of course, it's something that she has to think about. She's been considering. She's been very open in talking about that to us, to Ashley, to Vince. But at the end of the day, for me at least, I never saw this really going in any other direction. Um maybe, you know, maybe we still see a world where this happens at the final three. It just doesn't seem the most likely at this point. You know, we're going to see throughout the day today. Ava knows she's going home tonight. So, yes, uh especially this Final Four eviction. Uh it does to me seem like Morgan is still concerned about uh whether she can beat Vince in the final two. The question is if that will ever like really manifest itself in anything in particular. Um so the day is fairly uh standard uh because of that there's not much going on until uh later in the night Ashley has a conversation with Vince where basically she tries to do the same thing she did on Morgan uh but to Vince. uh and sort of everything I talked about yesterday where Ashley has built up this credibility over the course of the season with Morgan. So to the point where she's able to bluntly make these points and get away with it. I think she maybe found some success there and was like, "All right, let me try this on Vince now." And the problem is she has not built up that credibility with Vince. He's hated her from day one. Uh, and so, um, probably a bit of a mistake to even try with Vince. Uh, of course, he's doing his normal thing with her as well. Um, basically, they're both agreeing that obviously Morgan beats them in the final two. Uh, and they would take each other. Uh, obviously, she says, "Yeah, even Ava was telling me that you're going to take Morgan to the final two because you're obsessed with her." But I was like, "No way. He's not that much of an idiot." Um, and he's like, "Oh, of course not. Of course not. I'm not an idiot. I I'm obviously I know I need to take you." Uh, and uh, and they're having this conversation and uh, and the real danger, of course, here is that Vince is obviously going to rat Ashley out here. >> Yeah. But I mean, who could blame Ashley for trying? Obviously, she knows that the only thing that she really has left at this point is to, you know, maybe hope for a competition win in the final three if she's so lucky to make it there, which more than likely, you know, 99% is going to be the case. But, um, I would say that, you know, throughout the season, she has had good conversations with Vince despite Vince having this perception of her that she's not worthy to be here and she's not a not a real player in the game and whatever else he said about her. You know, we've talked about a couple different weeks where she's the one that goes into a lot of uh Vince HOH rooms being very gentle with him and not pushing him and and playing to him in a way that works for him that he doesn't feel like she's a threat all of a sudden, you know, Vince is down with her being brought deeper into the game. And whether that's because she's not a big threat in his eyes or just because he feels like he can kind of trust her a little bit. I think she's just done that work throughout the season to get to this point. So, you may as well keep trying. again, it's not like she has a whole lot of other lanes left to try to go down. >> Uh yeah, so you know, she makes an attempt here and and you know, the thing too about Ashley is that she always has been very careful about what she says to Vince. I think that um I I think that she just genuinely didn't expect uh Vince I I I think she might actually to some degree be telling the truth to Vince that she really doesn't think that he's that dedicated to losing the game. Uh and therefore she was safe in, you know, doing this to a little bit. Uh it's still a mistake though in my eyes because um while you know obviously Morgan is basically a guarantee to be in part three uh there's a chance there's a there's a a heavy chance that like Vince would be two and you really need to like work on one of them first and he can throw her under the bus if she has no equity in winning the competition at final three. Uh so you have to sort of pick a lane and stick to it. Um and hope that flipping one can help flip the other. Uh but either way we'll see. Uh, of course, Vince is going to run this right back to Morgan. He lets her know that Ashley was pitching to him that Morgan obviously and definitely wins the game. And this is news to Morgan. She's like, "Wow, really?" Because she's telling me it's 50/50 against you. Uh, oh man, like that sucks. Um, and they have a little bit of a back and forth, but what I will say is, uh, this isn't like necessarily disastrous. Uh because I do feel like Morgan still thinks she has a better shot against Ashley. It's just that Morgan has this in her mind tough decision of guaranteed win versus having to cut Vince. And uh and Ashley had done a good job of presenting that to her as a tough decision. So Morgan's looking for any reason to make that not a tough decision. And the idea that Ashley is being a little bit shady here can help make that an easier decision. Um, she asks Vince, "Would you be mad at me if I took Ashley to the final two?" And he says, "I mean, I'd be upset. Do you do you really want to sit next to me in the final two or you know, like she says, yeah." Uh, and she's like, he's like, "Uh, you you you take me over Ashley." Uh, and she says, "I want to." And I don't think she's lying. I think she genuinely is telling him, "I want to take you to the final two." But she's not willing to if it means she loses. So, she starts coming up with like, "Well, maybe it does make sense to take you to the final two." Because, you know, I don't even think it's a guarantee that Ashley loses. You know, she has a good story. Uh, she can say she was a big target and then she uh used us as shields to get to the end. Like, you know, I she's smart. like she could make a good case for herself. >> Morgan was saying to Vince yesterday, you know, every time I picture myself giving my final speech, it's next to you. Every single time that I think of myself on the finale night, you know, talking to the jury, you're the one that I picture right by by my side. And I think that's extremely telling of just like the default she's at right now. Her default thought mode, whatever, is that Vince will be there. And so it's just really bending her mind in all these different ways and getting this information about what Ashley's saying in conversations just with Vince that's like maybe pulling her back in different directions. But it's kind of like the case for both of these through two throughout the season that yeah, they want to consider everything or at least Morgan, you know, especially in a time like this is considering other options. But she keeps going back to the picture of the two of them at at the end in the final two. And she sees a good chance against Ashley, but I think she also sees the very good chance that she beats Vince. So, >> yeah. And and like here's the thing. I I don't know how much Morgan actually believes in this idea that Ashley could win the game either. I think this is in part her saying it as a way to help convince herself to take Vince because she'd sort of rather do that if she can. Um but also, of course, you can't ignore the fact that she's also trying to convince Vince to take her. Uh, and she's trying to, you know, if she's hearing that, uh, cuz Vince is saying that Ashley is like, "Oh, I'm guaranteed final two now cuz obviously you're both going to take me." Uh, which, uh, we did not hear. Um, so he might be making that up. But uh but she's just she's also trying to convince Vince that he should not be considering Ashley a guaranteed win, which is uh one of the big things that that we've been talking about when it comes to will Vince uh cut Morgan is if he knew he was guaranteed a win, he might. But the chance of him still losing, I think, is exactly what he mentioned in the diary room last night in the episode, which is I lose the game. I have no money and and I'm single. Like, I can't have that. Uh so, I fully believe he has pivoted from get the money to get the girl. Uh but if he knew for sure he could get the money, I think he would think about it. And Morgan doesn't want that. So, of course, she's going to tell Vince that Ashley still has a chance to win. Uh, and certainly, you know, the implication being against if she has a chance to win against Morgan, she certainly has a chance to win against Vince. >> At this point, for me, it's I don't want to say 0% cuz that's kind of crazy, but like, you know, 0.1% is is the amount of chance I see of Vince cutting Morgan at the end. Um, so while that work still feels worthwhile to put in and make sure that, you know, you have that base covered and you have those conversations, that's not, you know, the scenario where I see intrigue in the finale between Vorggan. Um, it if anything it would be for me that uh Morgan ends up cutting Vince, but I I don't think that either. I just think that they've had too many such and like I'll use the word intimate nights in the HOH room. Maybe not like that kind of intimate yet all the way. Uh, but like still just very close and and these conversations that are deep about each other and their lives and things that they can't wait to talk about on Monday in October, all of this stuff. It's like there is deep deep deep like if if you couldn't tell, you know, from the edit, from the live feed updates, from watching the feeds yourself, there is a deep connection between these two. And whether or not it's romantic from both of them, from one of them, the connection is still there and it's still deep. And to take it back to like the Ashley of it all for a second, you were saying, you know, Ashley may not see that Vince uh cares more about Morgan than he cares about winning the game at this point. Ashley's not seeing Morgan hours. She knows that they're up there sleeping in the same bed. She knows that they're very close. She knows that it's a little weird from, you know, the outside perception, but she's not seeing that they are just like just listening in on these conversations where they are opening their hearts up to one another, especially Vince Morgan. And it's just so hard to see, especially from today is Thursday, finale is Sunday, to see anything changing that. Yeah. Uh so this is uh the conversation they have. Um, we'll see again if this gets revisited in the final three. As of right now, no real movement on uh Ava being evicted. So, these conversations may pop up again. I assume Ashley will uh talk more with Morgan about them. Uh, one thing maybe worth thinking about is again there's a decent chance that Vince lied about what Ashley said and it is guaranteed. We already know that he certainly lied about what he said because he was very much fueling what Ashley was saying and it would be very fun if Morgan asked Ashley about it. Uh because Ashley would then deny it and I feel like at this stage of the game they would just have one conversation about it together. and uh to see Vince versus Ashley. Uh there's no shot he wouldn't crumble uh in a who's telling the truth uh argument. So that would be very fun. I'm not going to hold out hope, but uh there's certainly a chance. We've never seen something like this happen with the three of them. Um so uh they're doing that now. They do, you may recall that Morgan had planned to do Girls Night. >> Yeah. >> What happened to that? and Vince was going to sleep downstairs. Uh, of course he uh did not want Bat. Um, and so they have a little sort of hangout session upstairs and Vince gets the invite and then afterward, uh, the girls went downstairs and Vince slept up, uh, in the HOH room. Um, there was a conversation they had uh when they were hanging out up there that uh is making the rounds because Ashley was talking about uh like they were generally talking about like how much like who are they attract attracted to? You know, do you like, you know, are you attracted to money? Ava says she's not attracted to money. She's attracted to hustle. Um, and Ashley talked about how she couldn't date somebody without a job. Uh, and uh, and Morgan is like, "Oh, I don't have those kinds of standards myself." Um, it's like, "Okay." >> They talked about like how they don't think Vince is really unemployed. Um, and uh, and Ashley said, uh, like, "Hey, you know, like Vince has a degree." like like I don't even not really even talking about Vince when I say that necessarily. Um but uh but she also mentioned that like uh like she wouldn't date somebody who worked at Walmart unless she also worked at Walmart. Uh and that uh she's only ever dated very successful people. Um and uh and you could tell that uh the people in the room were not like really vibing with uh with this philosophy. I mean, Morgan especially, you know, who is, as she was pointing out, like nearly 10 years older than them, maybe like closer to eight or nine, she's like, "It's so interesting for me to like hear your guys' perspectives." And, you know, you're so much younger and, you know, back when I used to think the same way, but then Morgan was also getting into a little bit of like, well, I also dated a bunch of people who may not have been the best for me, so who knows if I know what I'm talking about. Um, it is funny though, the way that they are mostly joking, but maybe a little bit not. You know, you're always waiting for the finale to find out the big secrets of the season. It's a pretty common thing that happens on finale night and they think that there's a good chance that Vince is going to come out there and say, "Actually, I'm a lawyer, too. I'm a this. I'm a that." Nope. If anything, it's going to be the complete opposite. And uh by the end of finale night, not on the aired television show, but we will probably have the entire cast finding out that Vince's life has been going in the opposite direction on the outside rather than, you know, he's got really, really good things waiting for him. So, that'll be fun for them to all figure out. Maybe not so fun, but yeah, not what they're expecting. >> Uh so, um Vince and Morgan together afterward are uh doing their thing in bed together. Um and they have another like uh conversation about their feelings. Uh this time he's the one who's like, I are you gaming me? Um, I think that like basically after the conversation the night before, she was trying to get clarification from him, what's happening? Are you really into this? Why are you making moves on me? We haven't talked about it yet. You haven't told me of what you're actually feeling. Um, and he said, I can't. I can't. I can't. Um, and I think that over the course of the day he was um thinking about maybe I do want to say something and he's but he's scared to say something and so he's like are you gaming me? And she's like no. And he's, you know, asking if you're using comfort as their uh code word. Uh like is it is it more than just like comfort? Is it like like more than just comfort? Uh and uh and they're like, "Oh, I don't I don't know." Like it's it's an October thing. It's a Monday thing that we should talk about that. Um and he says, "Well, like it is more than comfort for me. Sorry. Sorry. I can't I can't help it one way or the other." Uh and she's like, "Don't be sorry. People have feelings." >> Doesn't really say it back. No. Uh he could not stop uh himself. I mean, every time that you think they're going to bed, they're awake again and talking and he's talking about I'm really going to miss this. I'm just I'm really going to miss this. I may never have this ever again. Uh you know, we we may never have we may never have this ever again. He doesn't know, you know, what bed he's going to be sharing with Morgan and having these late night hours where Yeah, comfort is a big word because it's obviously how he feels around her. He is just like his heart is bursting open with the whatever you want to call it. the way that he's feeling about her. Comfort really again feels like a good word for it because whether it has to do with the game or whether it has to do with him just like letting his guard down, he wants so badly to tell her how he feels about her and how great of a person she is and how much of an impact she has made on his life. And of course, he has started to, you know, say a lot of that stuff. He's dropping I love yous platonically, sure. Uh but he he is so badly waiting to just dive deeper into these conversations and just talk about like the the soulmateness of what these two have maybe become in his mind and what he's hoping for her to tell him that she feels the same way. But obviously there's a pillow barrier between them and a mental barrier of we still don't know if you have a girlfriend or not. Uh that is stopping them from being able to talk deeper and the cameras are still on. So >> it's tough. >> I mean, I'm just again like these people clearly don't know about talking during the music in the morning. I just don't get why. Uh I guess they sleep through it. I guess that's the problem. They stay up too late. >> The the late night hours are where you get into these deep chats. You wake up first thing in the morning. You're not looking to have the deep emote. You're you're opening your eyes. So point taken about like that's a better time to be off, you know, feeds. But uh no, this is like the the true romantic like let's talk pillow talk. >> I mean the other thing like >> people do people do this all the time. They take their mics off. They you know like there are plenty of ways you know like um anyway uh that is uh that's really the day. It's um again as we're set up for tonight, Ava will likely be evicted and then uh we will head into the final three, Morgan, Vince, and Ashley. And uh as of right now, Morgan and Vince kind of locked back in together. I think that they are uh once again like fairly like I said, fairly locked. Uh but given that Ashley was able to make a dent before, it is certainly possible that she may be able to make another dent again as the actual uh prize money starts to loom. Uh we will have to just wait and see. Uh anything else you wanted to mention from yesterday, Matt? >> Um do we ever figure out why the feeds were down for two hours? Um >> no. >> HOH lockdown? No. It was it was a couple hours in the middle of the day. assuming maybe at like, you know, the mastermind layer, maybe they were working that into something else. And obviously when they're working in the house, they keep everybody locked away, but nothing seemed different when when we got back. So, who knows? Um, it was funny watching uh throughout the day. I mean, there's some people, you know, it's not obviously a house full of super fans, but like Ashley and Vince were like constantly talking about when's the veto meeting going to happen? Why is there no veto meeting yet? >> They were like, "Oh, we got to do the veto meeting." They were also talking about the final three HOH and how the first comp is endurance and then the second comp is like a booth comp. >> Oh yeah, classically. >> And then the third comp is also a booth comp. >> Yeah, exactly. >> I wish, dude. I wish. >> I mean, they'll be lucky if they can get like Scales of Justice or whatever to uh final three to have some kind of quiz, but no. Um what else? Uh yeah, Ava obviously knows that she's going home. Um, Ashley and Ava were in the bathroom late at night and they were having a little fun. Look, these two obviously have some kind of like worthwhile connection. Ashley thinks that Ava's so funny talking about like she hates everybody. She doesn't care about being friends with alumni, all this stuff. Um, and they were trying to Ashley was trying to get a little excitement out of Ava because Ashley's feeling excitement that she's about to go into the final three. Ava knows she's getting evicted tomorrow. So, it was a very like a you know, Ashley's had her misreads throughout the season. This isn't like exactly one of them, but a misread on the vibe of the night, I guess, because yes, she's about to be in final three. Ava's not. And Ava's like, I'm getting evicted tomorrow. Like, can we calm down and let me go to bed? But >> yeah, >> there's that. Um, that's about it. Oh, actually, no, one more thing. Sorry to keep us almost to a half hour, but um Ava's pitch to Vince talking about, you know, if you take if you cut me at three instead of four, I'll make sure I get all these jury votes on your side. What? >> Yeah. I mean, listen, it's the uh that was the Jonathan Penner. No. Uh in Cook Islands, uh like uh you keep me one more round, uh I'll I'll vote for you. Was that Penner or was that someone? No, no, that was uh Jonathan. Jonathan made that uh that deal with with you. >> You're asking me to remember a long time ago in Survivor. I need a rewatch. But uh um I don't know. It was just she's trying. You know, it's it's funny because she's obviously been so averse to playing the game all season, but now it's like now you're really thinking about it. Um, she's >> sorry, his name was Adam, not Jonathan >> on Cook Island still. Okay, we're we're getting closer. Um, she hasn't wanted to play the game a lot, but like now we're down to This is such an easy way to play the game. I All I have to do is talk to one person. I don't have to go pulling in votes and making it seem like I care. I just need to talk to one person and try to get them on my side. It's a bad pitch because, you know, obviously she's not going to have enough time to sway anybody at the end. And she I think kind of realizes this. Uh I'm I'm gonna be happy by the end of the night. Look, Ava was a little bit of fun at the beginning of the season, but I am personally ready for this eviction. And that's all I got. >> And they're so mad. Uh they're like, "Wow, threatening. Why is everyone threatening jury votes? That's like never happened in the history of the show. Never, >> never, >> never, never, never, >> never, >> never. >> Um, it's wild to me how people can go on the show and experience the real time of what it's like to be on the show versus what they saw in the edit and still feel like they know everything from previous seasons based on the edit they saw. You know what I mean? Like I it's wild to me. Uh, >> I don't know how we ended up that Keanu seemed like he had the most previous season knowledge going into this. Like every time that he was talking about something that happened, I was like, that kind of is correct. Everybody else has been pretty awesome. >> He really studied those highlight clips. >> Yeah, he watched a lot of them. Ashley obviously knows a lot about Hannah season, but other than that, you know, I don't know. It's been a lot of confusing conversations about Big Brother past. They'll get correct. Ashley Ashley keeps talking about the cookout and how Xavier took Big D over Aza because he knew he couldn't beat Aza. Uh which obviously we know isn't true based on uh how the jury we think the jury was feeling at least. Uh and how Xavier and Oza went into part three of the final three HOH against each other knowing that they were going to cut each other because she's trying to set up that that's what Vince and Morgan should do. Uh, of course we know that Aza very famously was planning to take Xavier. Um, but uh, you know, it's just they they get so many things wrong. This one I think uh I don't know if she misremeers it or she's actively lying about it to try to uh to angle it in a certain way. But um, you know, it's >> you use whatever you can at this point, especially if you can tell that people don't know the correct answers, just keep running with it. Why not? >> I mean, that's what Chelsea did to McKenzie last season. like constantly lied about how the end game worked. Uh, very effective, very effective stuff. >> Um, all right. So, that is what we have for you today. Of course, I'll be live Twitch, YouTube, and Patreon for tonight's eviction episode of Big Brother 27. Uh, I imagine they'll also like maybe they'll start the HOH or maybe they'll do that on tomorrow's episode, the recap of the recap. Um, but either way, Ava will very likely be leaving. So, uh, we'll, uh, we'll see that happen tonight, as well as perhaps more of this nonsense that's going on with Vince and Morgan. Um, and we are just a few days out from the finale. I'll of course be live tomorrow morning with a live feed update. We'll likely know uh, the outcome of part one of the final three HOH. Um, it is endurance. So, I would say that Vince actually has the uh the leg up here, most likely person to potentially win. However, if it's like slippery wiener endurance, um, then it's uh, and this I should have said it that way. I if it's like holding on to a thing, I think Morgan uh has has an edge just because she's a lot stronger than Vince. Oh boy. >> But uh >> I don't want to know that Vince slippery wiener. >> I really don't. >> I mean really if it were that Vince would have the advantage considering all of his showers. Um >> oh boy. >> So uh either way uh we'll likely have some results for uh for part one tomorrow. So we'll see about that. >> Did you see Morgan pulling Vince like by his pants uh to like pull further out of the bed? It was it was a little strange. She was just like trying to get him to put a face mask on and she like pulls him by his whole body. All of a sudden he's like laying at the end of the bed. There's clips online if you want to see, but maybe don't look. >> Well, you can uh you can also of course check out my book Behind the Mirror uh at tarrenstrong.com. Uh you can pre-order the audio book and uh still get some there are very few days left to get signed copies specifically from the book Catapult, my local bookstore. Um the the pre-orders for that store will end on the 30th. So be warned there. Uh but uh you still have some other options on the website as well if you want to order and you have not yet. Make sure you do before the season ends because you're going to forget you when when Big Brother ends. You forget about me. You're not going to remember. >> No way. >> The postseason, get out of here. But what if uh people already bought a book? Can they buy a book for like the rest of Maybe like buy one for the house guest? You know how you can like gift a sub on Twitch on Twitch? Like can you buy a book for these people so they can learn big brother history because they obviously need the education? >> Certainly be nice. Yeah. >> I mean, just send it off to them somehow. We'll figure that out. But uh yeah. >> What are you up to, Matt? Um, make sure you're checking out our Dancing with the Stars coverage here on RHAP. We know Dancing with the Stars.com. This week we had Big Brother alumni Tommy Broco uh joined us and we talked about this week's double elimination. Some fun guests coming up as well. Um, so that's been a lot of fun. And then I'm on the free agents podcast talking with Brian Scally about the challenge. Still, uh, two Big Brother contestants hanging in there doing pretty well. Um, and then we have uh the Diary Room podcast with myself and Aman Adwin uh talking big brother all season all year long. So if you're looking for some Big Brother content in your off seasonason, uh come check us out over there where we're trying to find the best player in Big Brother history, six players at a time in every episode. It's been a lot of fun. Um and that's that. >> All right. Well, thank you all so much for joining us here today and I will see all of you next time. This is RHAP. We know reality TV.